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Unfortunately even this subject has to be tackled occassionally:
Yesterday we received the fourth e-mail within 2 weeks of an angry customer who purchased an XXL CNC milling machine on e-bay and now has to find himself with a very large and expensive scrap heap.
Such machines as well as similar offers from different suppliers are always sold under the same conditions:
1. No information on delivered CE-explanation or manufacturer’s declaration (click here for more information).
2. Transactions are offered as private sales (in all cases, if more than one offer existed already tax fraud)
3. Without warranty and no return of goods. Some sellers offer a warranty, which however has no legal aspirations in the case of private sale.
Large machines are occasionally sold for over 2.000 €, as shown in our example below. Now, one would argue: ‘if somebody is that silly to invest such a large amount of money without any security measures, it’s his own fault and it serves him right’, which some how is true.
But there is criminal action connected to these sellers actions, whereas neither the descriptions are true, nor the machines are allowed to be offered or operated on the EU market and do not have a CE-certificate.
Basically: In case you house burns down due to a defect of one of these machines, insurance won’t pay a penny. Also you won’t be able to sue anybody in case of injury due to the machine. Reason for this is that you have purchased and are using a non-certified machine.
It becomes seriously criminal when businessmen use such machines!
On the bottom of this page you find photographs of described machines, which stem from ‘Taetern’ as well from ‘victims’.
We would just like to mention a few critiria:
Ask such sellers if a CE-certificate exists! Get information from manufacturers with a good reputation via the www how there machines are constructed and compare. In many cases one can establish clear defects simply by loooking ant the machine.
The most rediculous thing is the description on E-Bay, which refers to these machines.
New, immediately useable 3-axis-CNC-mills with very long trverse paths of x-1800mm. y-1000mm, z-115mm. For engraving and milling in timber, plastics and NE-metals. Ideal for modelmakers, furniture designers, advertisement construction etc. Controller and all necessary connection cables are integrated in the machines body. Milling spindle 1100 Watts, 6000-29000 rpm and set of 8 drill-bits for timber. Suction device is compatible to all domestic vacuum cleaners. With software PC-NC 3.1 (not part of the general delivery and subject to an additional 149,00 €) the machine is super-easy to use. With this software one can mill and engrave very precise contours (e.g. from ‘Corel Draw’). You only require a computer (486,00 € is sufficient) and you can start. Mechanical resolution of the machine is 0,012mm per step. When using timber one can mill up to a depth of 10mm, but due to a high precision repetition it is principally possible to reach any milling-depth. With appropriate additional software (e.g. Visual Mill) one can also mill 3D-solid models. Length of the working piece is unlimited. The machine can be assembled and disassembled very quickly, therefore easy to transport with any small car. Despite it is robust and precise.
Space requirements are 210cm x 125cm. I offer: FREE DELIVERY NATIONWIDE. MONTAGE AT YOUR WORKPLACE. PERSONAL TRAINING. 1 YEAR WARRANTY. Delivery immediately after we have received the full amount, collection certainly possible. When enquiring about delivery to other European countries please mention place or city. VAT cannot be listed, whereas this is a private sale. Happy bidding!
Here are a few pictures. Judge yourself, even if you are not a specialist in thus field:
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